Douglas Fir is predominate on the West Coast of the U.S. extending from Northern California up into Canada. Coastal Douglas Fir (the species used by Goshen) grows in a narrow strip from the lower elevations of the Cascade Mountain Range to the Pacific Ocean. It grows naturally above the flood plains in most mountainous regions. Doug Fir is also planted and grown on tree farms from very small plots of land to hundreds or thousands of acres. These farms are managed for healthy trees and optimum growth. As the tree farm matures, trees need to be thinned out to provide space for the other trees to grow big and healthy. These trees that are thinned out are referred to as a commercial or pre-commercial thinning. These thinning trees are the base of raw material to Goshen Forest Products.Douglas Fir has been the number one choice for many years by power and utility companies, telephone service providers, port authorities, and bridge construction companies.
When you combine the advantages of Douglas Fir with the time proven wood treatments available you have a vastly superior product that is the strongest and longest lasting on the market.
All of the different products and sizes of wood start out UNTREATED. In most outdoor applications we recommend some type of preservative to extend the useful life of the product. We do supply wholesalers and customers that will take the wood and either treat it themselves or have another treating company treat it.
Treated wood usually means wood that has been preserved with some type of treatment.
The intent of treating wood is to extend the useful life of a wood product. This may or may not always be true. It will depend on the treating process, type of treatment being used, and the species and condition of the wood being treated. There are some that will tell you that Doug Fir is hard to treat. In some circumstances they are right. Using the wrong chemical and/or the wrong process, Douglas Fir would be almost impossible to treat. To learn more about the our quality treating processes see Treatments.
Treated Posts and Small Poles are used in many ways. We have outlined several of the more popular uses under Fence Posts, Small Poles, and Trellis Posts. In most applications, farmers and ranchers are telling us they would like to get 40+ years out of their posts and realize the value of going with quality Doug Fir.
There are many different treatments or preservatives on the market today. some are effective on some species of wood, while not effective on others. The way the treatment is applied and the condition of the wood makes a big difference in how good the wood will ultimately be treated. Pressurized treating is by far the most popular. Some treatments are water-based and some oil-based. They each have particular advantages and disadvantages. The most popular treatments for Doug Fir is ACZA and ACQ which are water-based and Creosote and Penta which are oil-based.
There are lots of buzz words and phrases like “ground contact” and “treated to refusal” used in the marketplace that lead you to believe that you are looking at a quality treated product. Unfortunately, the unaware customer ends up paying in the end with premature product failure and high replacement costs.
We deal only with wood treating companies that follow AWPA (American Wood Preservers Association) guidelines to assure that our products are properly treated to the highest standards. Only by meeting these guidelines are you guaranteed that you will get the longest lasting wood available.
It may cost more for our product initially, however, when you look at the yearly cost spread over the first 10 to 20 years (after most posts have failed) it pays to go with Doug Fir. If you look at the cost over 40+ years (the usable lifespan) you will see that your cost is considerably less.
Posts and Small Poles, are our bread and butter at Northwest Fir. We’ve processed hundreds of thousands of posts since start up in 1993. As you will see, we manufacture a whole range of sizes from 2” diameter all the way up past 12” and 7’ up to 25’ for all sorts of agriculture.
Our company guidelines in regard to quality as to straightness, size requirements, sapwood content, taper,machine finish, and soundness of the wood are the highest in the industry.
We use only Coastal Douglas Fir so you know that you are getting the strongest, straightest, best posts and poles made. Combine our product with the best wood treatments available and our round wood is unbeatable, much stronger and longer lasting than any other posts and small poles on the market!.
Goshen Forest Products produces thousands of fence posts every year and markets them mainly through farm stores up and down the West Coast.
We currently carry an inventory of untreated posts ready to go.
Fence post failure is the #1 reason fences prematurely fail? Whether it be steel posts or poorly treated wood posts, the cost of using cheaper products will in the long run cost you a lot more.
We have all the popular sizes to handle fence jobs from sheep fence all the way up to 8’ elk fence and everything in between.
Personally we don’t enjoy building fence so when it’s done, we want it to last longer than us. Build it right, put your trust in quality treated Douglas Fir posts, use the best materials, and you’ll have a fence that will last a long time.
Small Pole usually means any diameter and a length of 14’ to 25’. Northwest Fir produces thousands of small poles for a variety of applications every year. This is where our Douglas Fir really shows its advantages of superior strength and durability. Whether it is holding up shade cloth or bird netting or supporting a heavy crop of hopps 18’ in the air, Douglas Fir is the best choice.
No matter what your application, if you're looking for small poles and are concerned about the usable lifespan of your system or structure contact one of our sales guys to discuss your options. With our Doug Fir poles combined with a certified AWPA wood treatment you will be looking at a solid pole with a usable lifespan of 40+ years.
This has been an area of focus for Northwest Fir. We recognized an opportunity, especially in the vineyards seeing they were having problems in California with early post failure. As we grew, the word got out, cane berry growers and orchards started using our posts for their trellis systems also.
Many times users only look at the initial cost of posts in determining which to buy. They really need to step back and analyze their true cost of building their trellis system. How long will the posts truly last? How do you know the posts have been properly treated? A trellis system is only as good as the material that goes into it. What is the true cost of premature post failure?
We start with only the best Coastal Douglas Fir and have it treated properly according to AWPA specifications so we know it will last 40+ years. In fact, posts treated with ACZA at J.H. Baxter & Co. come with a warranty that if they ever rot or decay while you own them, they will be replaced!
Order Information for Posts and Small Poles
Treated Fence Post Customers: For general questions about product sizes, availability,treatments,or anything else you can telephone during normal business hours Mon. through Fri. West Coast time, or E-mail us at your convenience. We have dealers in many locations and more are opening up all the time. In most cases, our dealers will probably have the posts you are looking for. Unfortunately, we may not have a dealer in your area. That might be an opportunity to talk with your local post supplier and let them know that your interested in long lasting Douglas Fir posts. They would be able to purchase by semi-load at a reduced price. Please Go to the Contact Us page and email or call us today. Thank You.
Small Pole Customers: Please go to the Contact Us page and email or call us for more information. If you know exactly what you need, please fax that information to us so we can give you a bid. Thank You.
Trellis Post Customers: If you are located in Oregon and Washington go to the Contact Us page and email or call us . If your located elsewhere and you have purchased your posts through wholesalers or installers before, we urge you to check with them first. Ask them if they can get you the long lasting Coastal Doug Fir posts. You may be able to buy the posts through them at practically the same price and save yourself a little work. If that is not an option, please go to the Contact Us page and get a hold of Terry Edwards the Sales Manager and he will get you taken care of.
Untreated Post Customers: Northwest Fir carries all the popular sizes at the mill site in Creswell, OR. We can quote the posts at the mill or delivered to your destination. Please go to the Contact Us page and email or call us today.
About Our Company
Northwest Fir Products has been in business for over 7 years now manufacturing and marketing high quality Douglas fir round wood products. We are located near the middle of Western Oregon right along Interstate 5 just south of Eugene.
Northwest Fir recently completed a new cut up line that has increased the mills output capacity by more than 400%. It is capable of processing 100 to 150 tons of post and pole type wood every 8 hour shift.
What this means to you, our customer, is the assurance of the highest quality Douglas Fir post & pole material in the shortest time.
We take pride in our products and it shows in everything we make. Our focus is on customer satisfaction.
Our quality requirements start in the woods where our raw material is grown. From there we constantly monitor our production to the highest standards in the industry. We utilize only treating companies that follow AWPA guidelines to assure that our material is properly treated for maximum lifespan. We start with the best wood, Douglas Fir, make the best products, and add the finest treatment available to give you a superior finished product.
We hope you find our site very informative and easy to get around. We have included a lot of pictures that show you our various products and their uses.
Hopefully many of your questions will be answered and you will get a "feel" for our company.
Our focus is on quality, the best there is, not on price, so if you are only interested in the cheapest initial price, we may not be the company for you. But, if you are looking for long-term value with the understanding that our products are actually less expensive when spread over a period of time when other products have failed then check us out.
"Our company is not run based on short term thinking. We are simply not going to market a sub-standard product. Quality is not just a buzzword for us. We practice it everyday."
Mike Babcock - President
Country Log Fence
Country log Fence consists of 3 main components: 1. The posts and rails are Coastal Douglas Fir. 2. Posts and Rails are joined by the Wilson tenon joint system. 3. Posts and Rails are heavy duty treated per AWPA specifications.
Coastal Douglas Fir is strong - about 30% stronger than pine. What that means is that our posts and rails will take a lot of abuse! These are not peeler cores or doweled wood. These were small trees that were selected for minimal taper and straightness. They were processed on a machine peeler to just remove the bark and to leave as much sapwood as possible.
Country Log Fence utilizes a system that has been proven to withstand time. The Wilson tenon joint connection is a combination of the rail being tenoned on the end so it fits into a round hole in the post. The advantage of this system is that it allows the rails to “move”. Another words it lets the rail contract and expand through the different seasons and does not rely on some sort of fastener to hold the rail to the post. You see, that’s where most problems start in a fence. As wood contracts and expands, it continually works on the connection until it loosens and becomes weak. This system was originally developed to take advantage of using round rails which are a lot stronger than sawn wood.
We have several different treatments available. We will focus on the three most popular: ACZA, Penta, and Creosote. All three treatments are excellent and have a proven track record. They all will last a very long time. All posts and rails are treated to AWPA standard C5. They are sampled and go through a stringent testing procedure to assure you of the highest quality and the longest lasting wood fence on the West Coast!
Our Country Log Fencing will look good for many years--and it is maintenance free! It will not crack, stain, or fall apart. Many fences on the market look good for 2 or 3 years; if you’re fortunate, maybe 5 to 10 years. Our fence, when installed correctly, will last 40+ years.
We offer real wood, ranch style fencing that is strong, durable, and great looking. Our “Premium Heavy Duty Fence” utilizes big 5-6” posts and fat 3-4” rails. Our “Elite Jumbo Size Fence” is enormous, utilizing huge 6-7” posts and husky 4-5” rails. We know this is a fantastic decorative looking fence. Don’t be fooled, this solid fence is very much “at home” on a working ranch also.
What is the significance of the doweled rail end and hole in the post? The doweled rail end and hole in the post is the main selling point for this type of fence. Temperature changes and moisture cause wood to contract and expand. When you rely on some sort of fastener to connect any kind of post and rail together, it will become a maintenance problem. Our Country Log Fencing permits the rails to move, an attribute that will allow your fence to last a long time.
Do you use either peeler cores or doweled wood? Neither. We just remove the bark utilizing a machine peel process. The purpose is to leave as much sapwood as possible. This process helps insure good chemical penetration and prevents rails from warping and splitting wide open.
Is this fence difficult to install? No. Typical installation will require at least two people. You install it one section at a time. You will need to drill holes in the ground approximately 2 1/2 to 3 feet.
What size holes are in the post? The Premium Heavy Duty Fence utilizes a 1 7/8” doweled rail end that fits into a 2” hole in the post. The Elite Jumbo Size has a 2 7/8” doweled end into a 3” hole.
Does the doweled end rail weaken the fence or the rail? The 1 7/8” and 2 7/8”doweled ends are extremely strong. They’re so strong, our experience shows that the rail will break in the middle before it breaks on the end.
What happens if a rail breaks? There are several ways to replace a rail. To use an original length, you will have to lift up one or a couple posts. This will lengthen the space between them to slip a new one in. Another way would be to shorten the length of one rail a little and slip it in one side first, then the other. To hold it from coming out of the hole, you just add a deck screw.
How heavy are the units of posts? Full units of posts and rail weigh between 3,000 and 4,500 lbs depending on size.
How long does it take to get my order? Order times will vary, depending on the size and type of fence, and current orders. Your dealer can inquire about how long the mill is back ordered. The actual processing, kiln, and treating time takes approximately 4-5 weeks.
How to Order To place an order, you need to make some basic decisions:
1. Which size fence? Premium Heavy Duty or Elite Jumbo Size? 2. What length of rails? 3. Which Treatment? ACZA, Penta, or Creosote?
At that point we need to know where the fence is going to be shipped and then we can start to help you. We may suggest a dealer if there is one in your area. There is no advantage buying the fencing directly from us, there may be an advantage to buy from somebody local to you. Depending on the size of order, we will talk about the most economical way to get it to you.
Do you need a fence contractor? In some areas we have fence contractors that we can recommend. Otherwise, we suggest you contact and talk to several in your area. We even recommend having the contractor you choose call us. We would be happy to discuss the installation with them. Are you planning to build the fence yourself? We are here to help. If you need help with the layout, contact us and we will discuss it with you.
Shipping times vary depending on back orders, treatment, and location. It is not uncommon for order times to run 6 to 8 weeks and longer. We manufacture a custom fence to fit your property. Whether it is following the curvature of your driveway or making special length rails to fit a particular place, there is no extra charge. We suggest to order as far in advance as practical for your situation and we will work hard to meet your needs.
Go to the Contact Us page and email or call us today. Thank You.
Speciality Products can be any size of Douglas Fir. Generally they are outside the scope of what we call agriculture posts found under Posts and Small Poles, or bigger poles found under Poles and Piling. Their uses are varied and many. Treating the wood with a preservative is also an option. Following is a list of the more common specifications that we deal with on a regular basis. In most cases, we are able to manufacture these posts and poles according to your needs:
Our ability to produce most custom orders is limited only by your needs.
Because of the nature of Specialty Wood Products, with all the different specifications and options, we need to have some basic information before we are able to quote prices.
The more information you can supply us, the better we are going to be able to help you. We may or may not have experience with your particular application. We will ask several questions to try and determine exactly what will or will not work for you. Some of the more common questions will be:
1. Does the wood need to be dry or green?
2. Does the diameter refer to the tip or butt or is it an average?
3. Is there a range with the diameter or are there tight specifications?
4. Is appearance a factor, rough or smooth?
5. Is there any remanufacture work that needs to be done?
6. Do you want us to treat the wood, if so, do you have a preference of the type of preservative?
7. When do you need the wood?
8. Do you want us to deliver the wood and where?
Generally the more flexibility we have as far as diameter, condition of wood, and the time frame we are working in, the better the price.
We prefer to receive a fax first with as much information on it as possible. At that point, we will contact you by phone to get any other questions answered and hopefully have the price for you. Please go to the Contact Us page to get our information. We look forward to serving you.
Poles and Piling
What hours are you open? Our normal business hours are Monday through Friday 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. and Saturday 8 a.m. to 12 noon. Quite often we are here both earlier and later. You are welcome to call to see if someone is going to be around when you would like to come. We may not know sometimes until the day before.
Can I bring my kids with me? You are bringing your kids at yours and theirs risk. We ask that you exercise extreme caution. We do not want young kids crawling on the wood pile. Also, please keep them in your close proximity. The mill can become a dangerous place to an unaware child.
How much do you think I can get into this pick-up or trailer? This question reminds me of a story. I told the guy who came in with a small Datsun type pick-up that I thought he might be able to get roughly a third of a cord on. As I watched him, it reminded me of a similar situation. It’s like going to the restaurant and getting one of those small dishes to make a one time pass through a huge salad bar. It’s like you definitely take your time placing different foods on that small dish until you end up with a small little mountain that you have to balance carefully to get it back to your table. Now what's wrong with that? Nothing. Especially when you’re hungry. Back to the guy with the small pick-up. This guy ended up putting a cord of wood on that little rig. I would have never believed it had I not watched him do it. The moral to this story is, it is pretty hard for us to tell you how much wood you can put on your rig. When your finished loading, if you're unsure how much you have, we will then measure it up. I think you’ll find we’re easy to get along with.
What kind of wood is it? It is mostly doug fir. We do get some hardwoods mixed into it occasionally.
Is your wood dry? It will depend on how long ago we processed it. Some will be dry and some will be green. The unique thing about our wood is that most of the bark has been removed. That has several advantages. The wood will dry faster than normal. You virtually eliminate the messy bark problems in your wood shed and more importantly in your house! The wood is neater and easier to handle.
Can I bring my own saw and cut the wood myself? We no longer let people saw wood at the mill. It was not only a safety issue for the person running the saw, but also for other customers that came in to load wood.
How often do you have wood to sell? We have run out of wood in the past. There is never any guarantee that we will have it. Firewood is a byproduct for us. As long as we recover our costs in handling it and we are processing wood, we will have it for sale. Buy it as soon as it is practical for you.
Why do you sell your wood so cheap? How did this question get so far down on the list? It should have been number one or number two at least? We want to provide a good deal on our wood. We realize that having to sort through the pile at times takes some effort. We want it to be worthwhile. We also want your business again. PLEASE tell others about us. THANK YOU!.
Firewood is sold on a first come, first serve, u-load basis. We are not responsible for accidents. You are handling and loading firewood at your own risk. We have a no smoking policy at the mill. The regular price is $80.00 a cord (4x4x8). We do offer a $20.00 cash discount which makes the price $60.00 a cord.
We do sell partial loads, in other words, you pay for what you get. If there is any doubt as to how much wood you’ve loaded, we will measure it up and take into account whether it is stacked or just thrown in. We are extremely fair and want you to feel that you have gotten a good value for your money.
The procedure is: you may come right in (assuming it’s during our normal operating hours) and go straight (also assuming nobody is in your way) to the firewood pile and start loading. When you’re finished, find the mill supervisor to pay. We can provide you with a receipt if you wish.
We attempt to get most of the wood cut between 14” and 18”. A lot of shorter and longer pieces get into the pile. When time permits, we have a guy go out with a saw and cut up the longer pieces that are easy to get to.
We do have some free wood. We give away the short cut pieces. That would be chunks of wood that would be roughly 6 inches and shorter in length. Your welcome to load as much as you want.
We THANK YOU for your business and appreciate you telling others about us!.